Our Staff

Garret Leslie Executive Director
Charles Wise

When Charles Wise first asked me to help put together his bio for this website, I started to launch into the typical biographical information. But, we’ve all read that before. Does it honestly give you a better picture of the person than when you started? I would wager not. Instead, I want to share with you what I think of Mr. Charles (as my kids call him).

Charles Wise loves God. He is passionately in love with his wife. He is a loving and strong father to his two children. And he loves God’s people. That is not just a set of statements written to sound, well, lovely. They are the absolute truth. I have worked closely with Charles for almost a decade now. We have traveled around the country, speaking and teaching and vision casting and eating BBQ. We have ridden together in vans for fourteen hours, cars for ten hours, and planes for four hours. We have sat in small prayer rooms and big sanctuaries. And we have sat across the table from each other at a LOT of meals. Day in, day out I saw the same exact person.

You learn a lot when you travel with a person – it can bring out the worst in them. But not Charles. He is always joyful, praising God, and thankful to have a chance to serve. He loves teaching. He loves working with people and seeing their lives change. In his heart, he wants to see them discover God in a powerful way. He is a prayer warrior. He is always reading God’s Word. He constantly listens to sermons, wanting to discover even more about Jesus. This doesn’t make him weird or unenjoyable to be around. Instead, people are always drawn to him. It could be a waitress, a desk clerk, a fellow plane passenger, a complete stranger. They all are pulled to the Jesus that is alive in him. Personally, I love spending time with Charles because I walk away refreshed and strengthened. So I can see why people respond the way they do.

Professionally, Charles has used his natural charisma, his God-given joy, and his love for people to create multiple avenues to reach people with the life-changing message of the Gospel. For twenty years, he has served as licensed mental health counselor. Thousands of people have spilled their hearts out in a room with him as he prayerfully considered what wisdom could offer healing. Sometimes he is extremely gracious and merciful. At other times, he has to be harder and confrontational. So many lives have been touched. Charles founded Pathway Counseling Ministry as the nation’s first integrated auxiliary of the local church. That means that Pathway can establish sites at churches anywhere and still be covered by non-profit guidelines. Pathway has partnered with dozens of churches in Central Florida and Eastern Tennessee since its inception. But counseling was not the end of Charles’ vision to reach people.

For roughly 18 months in 2004 and 2005, Charles was unable to speak – a real problem for a therapist! During that time, Charles spent a lot of time praying and learning about God’s desire for intimacy with His people. He also observed how God’s people have lost their craving for an intimate relationship with God. When Charles regained his voice, he used it to call people back to that close personal walk with God. He did this through other ministries under Pathway’s umbrella. Defender Ministries was founded in 2005 to help students, parents, and churches deal with issues of media, pornography, sex, and technology. Butterfly House worked to help abused women. Legacy Builders was established to help men rediscover their ability to lead and serve. And the Pathway Ranch was created to minister to ministers, giving them a place to be renewed and restored. Pathway also used its resources and influence to help other ministries and groups reach people in their own communities – like Rethreaded in Jacksonville, Fresh Start Ministries in Central Florida, and Narrow Gate in Tennessee.

I love Charles Wise. He is one of the truest friends I have ever known and most genuine men I have ever encountered. The impact he has made on my life can never be measured. And I am just one of thousands who can say that. In the words of Gladiator, what he has done here on earth will echo into eternity. I can’t imagine anything making Charles happier than to have that statement be true.

Rev. David Staples

Co-Founder of Defender Ministries

October 2013

Contact Charles via Email: cwise@pathwayministries.com

Garret Leslie Executive Director
Leslie Hill & Rudy

Leslie received her Master of Science in Mental Health Counseling from Palm Beach Atlantic
University and is completing her post grad certification in Play therapy. She currently specializes in the treatment of children, adolescents and women using play therapy and expressive arts techniques.

Some of her areas of interest include sexual abuse and trauma recovery, grief and loss, self-injury, issues of self-worth, anxiety and depression.

Leslie is a therapist who creates safety and acceptance. Her warmth and creativity allow her to connect easily with clients. She believes that children are incredible and resilient with an innate capacity for healing. Working closely with parents, Leslie helps to equip, encourage and empower them.

Leslie is trained in EMDR (trauma processing), sand tray, animal assisted therapy, trauma intervention and play therapy. She is a current member of the Association of Play Therapy.

Email: lhill@pathwayministries.com
Locations: Winter Springs

Laura Rhines

Laura counts it a privilege to be present with people in their struggles. She helps people on their journey to find healing, purpose, and contentment in life. Her goal is to increase her clients’ own level of empowerment, so they find resilience to return from adversity, loss, and pain. She is excited to watch the transformation process as people find solutions to walk in peace instead of despair, and know happiness and joy instead of pain, shame, and suffering. Laura utilizes EMDR with those dealing with traumas from life (particularly women and adolescent girls). Since healing is often done through relationship, Laura also leads Group Therapy and works in conjunction with Darrell Rhines offering a unique approach of co-therapy for couples, families, and those considering marriage. Laura has served clients at the Safe House of Seminole, The Salvation Army, and facilitates group therapy at a local university.  Laura has a Master of Science degree in Counseling Psychology from Palm Beach Atlantic University.  Due to the method Laura utilizes with trauma issues, EMDR sessions will be 75 minutes.

Email: lrhines@pathwayministries.com

Darrell Rhines

Darrell will help you as you discover solutions to navigate the tough challenges of life.  With care, humor, and directness, he offers a vast array of experience to help individuals (particularly men and adolescent males) grow through personal change. Darrell uses EMDR to address traumatic events and Post-traumatic Stress. He has extensive experience with issues surrounding those with special needs,  grief, loss, addiction, anxiety, depression, chronic illness, and pain. Darrell also leads Group Therapy and works as a team with Laura Rhines offering a unique approach of co-therapy for couples, families, and those considering marriage. Darrel has worked with clients at The Salvation Army, Sunrise Arc, Orlando Union Rescue Mission, McCoy Behavioral Services, and facilitates group therapy at a local university. Darrell has a Master of Science degree in Counseling Psychology from Palm Beach Atlantic University. Due to the method Darrell uses to treat trauma, EMDR session will be 75 minutes.

Email: drhines@pathwayministries.com

Darrell Rhines and Laura Rhines
Darrell Rhines and Laura Rhines

Helping couples and families build or repair relationships, Darrell Rhines and Laura Rhines effectively serve by offering co-therapy. This means clients have the benefit of two counselors working with them at the same time in their sessions. This innovative team approach to couples, family, premarital, and group therapy is sought after since it offers understanding from both a male/female perspective, brings years of diverse experience, and creates more solutions, ideas, and insight. If needed, each therapist can also work with an individual during sessions, enabling both personal and relationship healing to take place simultaneously. Darrell and Laura are also trained in treating trauma which can often be a root cause for distress, both personally and in relationship. Darrell is a registered Mental Health Counselor intern and Laura is a registered Marriage and Family Therapist intern. Both have their Master of Science degrees in Counseling Psychology from Palm Beach Atlantic University. Due to the unique style of therapy, sessions are expanded to 75 minutes.

Email: drhines@pathwayministries.com or lrhines@pathwayministries.com

Garret Leslie Executive Director
Beverly Knestrick

Beverly specializes in working with women who are separated, divorced, widowed, abandoned, abused, married or single, and who may need guidance in finding their self-worth and value through their relationship with Christ. She does this through her ministry, Butterfly House (women’s support groups) that was founded and developed on the premise of Jeremiah 29:11. She has been affiliated with Pathway Counseling since 1996, as a client, then leading women’s study groups at her church for 5 years, and ultimately leading to earning her Masters in Counseling from the University of Central Florida. Beverly has been an educator for over 22 years and has earned her Educational Specialist degree. She is currently a Director for Exceptional Student Education in Orange County Public Schools. She loves her career in education; however, her passion is working with women both individually and in groups.

In her groups or as an individual client, Beverly guides women on a journey of healing to discover the true meaning of being loved and cherished, and how to fulfill that ache in her heart through a love relationship with the one true prince and knight in shining armor, Jesus Christ. He longs for you to come into His chamber and delight in His presence.

My lover spoke and said to me, “Arise my darling, my beautiful one, and come with me.” Song of Solomon 2:10.

Beverly is married to David and has 5 adult children and 5 beautiful grandchildren.

Email: bknestrick@pathwayministries.com
Locations: Winter Springs

Christopher Sahad
Christopher Sahad

Christopher has a passion in helping teenagers, and adults navigate through life’s everyday problems and struggles, as well as traumatic and life altering events. His passion is guiding and helping people through their own process of emotional and psychological healing, while also providing guidance in their spiritual walk. Christopher also has experience in providing Marriage and Family counseling. Recognizing his calling at a young age, he became part of his youth ministry’s leadership team, and was also the youth Sunday school teacher at a church in his hometown of Brooklyn, NY. Upon relocating to Florida in 2015, Christopher has become involved with a local church in Clermont and is now a leader in their youth and young adults ministries, as well as the 11th and 12th grade teacher at their school.

Christopher graduated from Saint John’s University with a Bachelor’s in Psychology and Theology, and later obtained his Masters degree in Mental Health Counseling from Nyack Christian College. He is able to have sessions in English and/or Spanish.

Email: csahad@pathwayministries.com
Locations: Windermere, Clermont

Courtney Jung
Courtney Jung, MS, LMHC
Certified Expressive Arts Practitioner


Courtney has been practicing as a therapist for seven years, and working in the mental health field for over a decade. She is a strong believer in holistic and innovative healing who is certified in expressive arts therapy, trained in EMDR (trauma-resolution), and is currently pursuing a doctorate in somatic psychology, or the psychology of the mind-body connection.

Her areas of specialty include trauma resolution, codependency, issues related to self-worth, empowering survivors of bullying and abusive relationships, expressive play therapy with children, adolescent therapy, and working with highly sensitive and gifted individuals across the lifespan. (Highly sensitive people make up 15-20% of our population, and tend to process sensory and emotional material at an especially deep level, thus presenting them with unique challenges and needs.) She finds great joy in using creative techniques to build long-lasting confidence and relational intelligence in young girls.

It is her heart’s desire to create a warm, authentic, encouraging, and effective space where hearts heal and shame and pain can be released.

Marcellus Taylor


Dr. Taylor is a man after God’s own heart. His life is characterized by his desire to follow God’s will for his life as well as his thirst for a deeper understanding of Christ and people. He is prayerful in all things and you’ll often see him absorbed in bible reading, biblical teachings, and biblical history. He is compassionate. He is joyful. He is loving. He is patient. He is kind. Dr. Taylor, in essence, is a humble servant of our Savior Jesus Christ and desires nothing more than to serve God by helping people.

Dr. Taylor offers compassionate and focused care to individuals, couples, and groups. His professional experience is forged from over twenty-four years as a licensed psychologist in multiple public service and private practice settings in New York and Florida. Within the public service agencies, Dr. Taylor has devoted himself to those who others may have forgotten within the developmental, correctional, forensic, and geriatric clinical settings. His commitment to those in need is fueled not only by his passion for his work, but from his own formative and transformative life experiences including church ministry and missions as a devotee of Jesus Christ. Dr. Taylor provides support and encouragement to those who find themselves in the most extreme and difficult circumstances of their lives. His education, experience, and devotion to Christ enable him to help the troubled and hurting experience hope, peace, growth, and healing.

Dr. Taylor’s formal foundational studies began at Miami Christian College (Miami, Florida) where he earned a B.A. degree in 1982 in Bible and Counseling and later earning his Ph.D. in Clinical/School psychology in 1991 from Hofstra University (Hempstead, Long Island, New York). His current professional interests include personality theory, philosophy of science, spirituality and spiritual directing. Dr. Taylor is a member of the American Association of Christian Counselors.

Courtney Jung
Beverly Cooper Sherman


Are you or a loved one struggling with depression, communication difficulties, relationship problems, divorce (child and adult adjustment issues), behavioral problems, or ADHD? If so give me a call, I will work with you and your loved ones to help you learn the tools to successfully manage your symptoms,as well as attain a more balanced and enriched level of enjoyment in your life.

My practice includes children and adults. CBT,Brief Solution Focused, Play therapy, and DBT are several therapies that I use throughout the therapeutic process. Women’s issues,Couples counseling, and Behavioral management are my specialties.

My goal with therapy with my clients is for them to be able to open up and process the root causes of their presenting issues and through this new found awareness and education, be able to manage their lives more effectively.

Robert Edwards Jr.


Robert was born in Brooklyn, New York, moved to Panama, Central America and then raised in Miami, Florida. Having lived in Panama for 6 years, it was a difficult transition to come back to The United States and begin learning the culture and establishing a comfortable life. Robert has always had a passion for helping people and problem solving. As an undergrad psychology student at Florida International University, he had the opportunity to work with one of his professors as a group helper in a second chance high school working with at risk high school students. This cemented his belief that he wanted to become a therapist and help others as a career. Robert graduated The University of Miami’s mental health counseling Master’s program in 2006, and strives to use his skills to help as many individuals and families as possible. Robert’s specialty is working with teenagers, young adults and families going through many different life issues and concerns. Robert uses a multidisciplinary approach to treat clients, including cognitive behavioral, person centered and many other therapy models which can change on a case by case basis. He is completely bilingual English/Spanish and understands the needs of recent immigrants to the United States.

Robert is happily married to Carly, who also helps those in need as a family law paralegal. Robert has many passions in life such as art, basketball and working on cars as a hobby.

Abraham George


Though his roots are in the Southern part of India, Abraham George was born and brought up in North-East India. A missionary with Campus Crusade for Christ since 1993, Abraham is also an ordained Presbyter in the Church of North India (CNI) in the Diocese of Chandigarh and has served as an associate Presbyter at the Christ Church (CNI) in Chandigarh from 1996 to 2011. After ministering in the North-West Region for over 15 years, his wife, Romila, and he, served on the South Asia (India, Nepal, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Bhutan) Leadership team of Campus Crusade for Christ, where Abraham led the Leadership Development & Human Resources (LDHR) and the Crisis Management Teams for the past 6 years. Abraham has been able to minister, teach, train and develop programs for helping more than 1200 missionary staff across South Asia, minister more effectively, as individuals and teams, as they take the gospel to the unreached millions.

Abraham has been instrumental in starting an 18 month ‘Counseling in Christian Ministry (CiCM)
program, which has had a great impact in the personal lives and field ministry of CCC missionaries. This
training has helped open many doors in the otherwise closed campuses across South Asia, by way of
allowing the missionaries develop skills that the college authorities are looking for, to help students on
their campus.

Abraham is currently in Orlando serving with Cru on the Global Leadership Development and HR team.
While ministering with Cru, Abraham is also pursuing his Counseling Licensure in Florida and plans to
return to India in August 2019.

Abraham and Romila have two children, Aaron and Eden. While Aaron is a recent graduate, Eden is a
freshman at the Goshen College in Goshen, IN.

Even greater blessing than the wise counsel is the true concern the counselors at Pathway Counseling Ministry have for the people they help.

- James King

This is counseling that is Biblically based and lovingly shared from counselors who live what they share and teach.

- Sidney & Kim Galloway

I have seen incredible results from those I’ve sent to Charles Wise and Pathway Ministries.

- Troy Schmidt

Mailing Address:

Pathway Ministries
PO Box 620478
Oviedo, FL 32762-0478